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secret knowledge forbidden religion and

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shine a light on the conspiracies to

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welcome to night vision radio

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hello everybody welcome to another

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edition of night vision radio I'm so

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happy that you chose to join us this

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evening or if you're listening to us in

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the archives thanks so much for looking

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us up and and seeing what we have to say

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we've got a great show planned for this

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evening but first I want to remind

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everyone about some special friends of

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night vision radio and it's the good

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people at return of the Troubadour calm

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now if you're a music lover or if you

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are especially if you're a songwriter if

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you know a songwriter right now return

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to the troubadour is there they're

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having an international song contest

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it's well under way and if you go to

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that website you can see the details the

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rules but what they're looking for is a

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song that uplifts humanity in some way a

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positive message for people because we

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know how music can affect as it can

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rouse you into a riot it can calm you

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down music does soothe the savage breast

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as they say and it just provides the

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soundtracks of our lives virtually so

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please have a look and the contest prize

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is really good or I guess there's more

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than one price but the first price i

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know is five thousand dollars in gold

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coins so it is a very very nice prize

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for some great positive songwriter so

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look them up return to the two bird are

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calm and please like them on facebook

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they appreciate it because music can

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change the world alright well tonight we

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have on another great friend of

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night-vision radio Gary Evans he's from

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across the pond but he's here in

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Southern California this week because

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he's speaking at the CPAC conference in

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Palm Springs starting this weekend

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actually starting tomorrow through

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sunday so we're going to talk to him

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about that and we're also going to talk

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to him about some special sites around

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the world and not only that but Gary's

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special abilities when it comes to these

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sites so stay tuned remember we have a

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live chat room going you can find it at

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inception radio network com and as we

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can throughout the show and mostly

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that are relevant and have our guests

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to monitor that and our wonderful

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them so please join us we'd love you to

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join in well Gary Evans thank you so

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much for agreeing to be on tonight I'm

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really excited about what we're going to

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talk about but first I just want to say

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welcome thank you it's good to be back

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always nice oh yeah always great talking

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with you Gary and you've been on night

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vision before but also we've had many

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conversations about these subject areas

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before we get into some of the sort of

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the meat of the material can you just

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tell me a little bit about this

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conference that you're speaking at in

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for all our listeners in Southern

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California who might be able to make it

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over to Palm Springs yes certainly yeah

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so I'm speaking at the CPAC conference

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springs area so it's starting tomorrow

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their water cruttenden who's the founder

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of CPAC is the ninth conference this

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year so it's been been going on for a

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while and there's been running various

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at there's a westin resort here

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temperatures very nice so yes a great

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place to be and there's kind of a family

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feeling I'd say a lot of the speakers

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come back and publish and release their

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latest their findings the audiences

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there's some some major scientists that

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are going to be there as well I know

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Robert Schoch who are audiences I know

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as familiar with is going to be there

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he's gonna be speaking who are some of

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the other people on the roster well I'm

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very excited to hear the talk by dr.

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Dean Radin oh yeah yeah he's got some

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really good stuff to discuss his latest

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book was super normal science yoga and

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the evidence for Extra Ordinary psychic

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abilities so I think that's going to be

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a really exciting talk and Amit Goswami

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he's also not ceramic goswami's on on

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the lineup and I've been enjoy his talks

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in the past he's got some great material

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physicist retired and say he's going to

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be talking about the self-aware universe

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and various other subjects and then as a

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few we've got higher ed Jones and she's

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yeah we've had her on as well she's

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great speaker very interesting lady and

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whether the conference is themed around

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cycles of consciousness the Yuga cycles

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which ties in to the writings of Parma

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hansa yogananda who wrote autobiography

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of a yogi if any of your door read

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that's quite a popular book i read that

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i won't tell you the year that i read it

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because then i'll be really giving away

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my age but i think everybody kind of

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knows anyway but i did read that some

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time ago in a course the Parma Hansie

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yogananda people have the

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self-realization centers out here in

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Southern California there's some

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absolutely gorgeous locations there's

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Washington it's a small neighborhood

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hilly neighborhood except on top of the

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the mountain and it's just a wonderful

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place yeah very nice so basically the

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overview is that there's a cycle of

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consciousness that affects humanity and

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rather than this linear model of

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progression for human civilization but

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self-developed people that are aware of

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their place in the universe in the past

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ancient Egyptians and then we have this

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Renaissance which is the rebirth of

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ancient knowledge and then we have us in

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primitive to modern man if we actually

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schools that isn't how history has

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played out at all so we go into a lot of

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these subjects some of the you could say

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aspects of civilization that's perhaps

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that they don't necessarily have answers

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to and well when you start bucking

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open-minded and we do we do see a sort

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of subtle progression in and certainly

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in this or metaphysical areas like the

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yoga and the meditation which is a

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mindfulness which is generally accepted

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by most people now so we're getting

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somewhere slowly yeah yeah I can see it

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happening now for those that are

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interested in the conference you can

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of guidance I made that mistake a few

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availabilities for the entire weekend

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be like day passes as well is that

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Gary yep yep this still room you've got

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a big venue here and we're expecting a

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good-sized audience so people store but

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welcome to join us Wow you might see me

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turn up down there Gary you just might

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see me now let's get on to some of the

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things that you were going to be

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speaking about at the conference but

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just about you your background I know

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that you are an avid avid traveler and

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world explorer you've been everywhere

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and and you've been in the process of of

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taking tour groups for the past several

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years that I know of and you're you go

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along with some major people like Robert

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Schoch Graham Hancock and others you

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also you know doing your own thing so

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when you started doing these travels was

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that when you figured out that you sort

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of had this gift for I want to call you

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like a human Geiger counter or human gps

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or a human dowser because you actually

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can sense things about these particular

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sites that have been known to have been

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venerated over history that you know are

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pilgrims destinations and other places

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that are known to hold energy to heal

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other types of things but you found at

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some point that you have an ability that

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maybe most of us don't have or certainly

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we don't have it developed can you

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explain that I yeah I certainly can and

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well since 2010 I've been helping

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organize and run tours to Egypt so that

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in 2009 I started to do attend yoga so I

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kind of had these two and at that point

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separate interest i was attending yoga

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initially trying to work out what i

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wanted to do with my life in 2009 and it

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didn't take too long for me to turn my

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interests in ancient history and ancient

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civilizations into a career because I

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was helping design websites for

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conferences in the UK I quickly became

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fascinated by these subjects from

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listening to all these amazing authors

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whose books I've been reading since my

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teenage years and then I started to

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represent them as an agent booking their

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media interviews they're speaking

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arrangements organizing these tours to

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ancient sites to Peru and Egypt Bolivia

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Europe as well but it's not along this

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developer trying to develop myself as

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style that I chose was yin yang which is

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long held postures rather than the kind

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of fast flowing movements and quite

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different postures and then the yoga

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teacher say lay down on your mat are now

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sense what's happening in your body

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because it's it's working on the same

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kind of points as acupuncture these

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meridian energy points in the body this

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is is the theory and by holding the

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postures for a long time you're working

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on the energy system of the body so I

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got into her you could say a routine of

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listening to myself what was happening

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after these postures could I feel these

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kind of subtle changes in the body so

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that was a kind of the one side of it

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and then when I was going to these very

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powerful energetic places and I mean at

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this point I've lost track of the amount

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of times I've been inside the Great

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Pyramid but it's only between 20 and 30

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and the temples and it's almost I would

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describe the tour's I organized almost

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as a modern-day pilgrimage because you

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take people through the series of

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pyramids and

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take them through the series of temples

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and the people that join us at the start

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of the tour are i would like to think

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uplifted elevated changed for the better

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by the end of the two weeks and i do see

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a progression because i'm very

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interested in the human side of these

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sites how they impact people how people

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feel while they're there do they have

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some kind of interesting experience I

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work with sound which we can get into

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later so sound and the effects on

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consciousness is something that's come

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out of spending a lot of time

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particularly in the pyramids because

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they are very finely tuned acoustically

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so I see this development time and time

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again on the tours in Egypt where we

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have a group of people that kind of

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coming from the 925 if they're lucky

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grind they kind of come come to us quite

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sort of stress than in this normal you

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could say rational mind set but as we go

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through these powerful ancient sites

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slowly but surely they're solving

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intuition starts to awaken perhaps

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they're going to start to feel some of

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these energetic effects happening some

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of them have said which has really

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touched me I've had my first spiritual

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experience and that's always nice to

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hear something beyond you Murray has

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happened to them and that's that's an

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amazing thing because once somebody has

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seen in into that kind of side of life

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it could really sort of propel them I

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think in a positive direction so like

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yeah journeys hopefully we provide of

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course there's no guarantees we're all

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different but for certainly for some it

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is possible yes yes do you feel that you

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know going through these Sciences you're

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talking about that it's sort it's sort

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of for those that are that are seeking

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it is sort of an initiative journey it's

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oh hello I'm still here sorry dropped

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out for a moment look Emmy yes I can I'm

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sorry um yeah I think it was on my end

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I'm not sure what's going on but anyway

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uh I know we discovered you know in some

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of the listeners know we Gloria medulla

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and I have taken lots of tours to France

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and UK and we structured those in such a

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way especially the more recent tours to

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go around certain positions or certain

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positions in the landscape certain size

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of megalithic structures and other

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things in a certain way and it sort of

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opens people up as they go along and we

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feel like it's sort of an initiative

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practice that you know you're going

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through and your body is start starts to

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get in some sort of residence it's

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really a Gloria thing but I'm just

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speaking you know from a layman's terms

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but I know that you know when we're

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there and we're doing these things with

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an intention that it does have an effect

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on people it's had many healing effects

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on people and that sort of thing is that

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what you're sort of talking about in it

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when you say people had spiritual

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experiences did they share those with

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you or what what that was like yeah I've

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had a number of people and share with me

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on the tour's I mean my talk at CPAC is

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more aligned with the science of sound

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and how sound frequency affects the

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brain and there's a lot of solid science

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I mean I'm looking at papers from

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Princeton stanford UCLA the University

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of Trieste in Europe is doing a lot of

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amazing research with it with an EEG on

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the brain so what we know from the

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scientific side is if we particularly

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using sound but you mean you can

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explain it just very simply by saying

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that we kind of left hemisphere dominant

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that's the sword driving mode using

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computers and the kind of you could say

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consciousness or brain activity that we

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used to with our Western lives but when

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you start to use some of these sound

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frequencies what we see happening is

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that it either balances the hemispheres

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or actually it I mean different

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frequencies will have different effects

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but you can start to really awakened the

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right-sided creative side and get into

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that intuitive space so that's what the

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science tells us happens particularly

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around sound frequencies generated by

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the male voice around 110 hurts and it

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seems like a lot of these ancient sites

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particularly the Great Pyramid is tuned

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to this frequency so when we go inside

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and we do of course I mean you call it

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toning chanting ritual chanting is what

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it would have been known as probably

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back in the day so we can see what's

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happening inside the brain but this is a

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very personal experience at that point

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so what we can't measure is what exactly

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is that person experiencing during this

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process with the sound and that's when

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we have to rely on their the people's

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reports and now that I have these

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multiple experiences lots of different

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tours I've got used to the experience of

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taking I mean we have people sometimes

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16 18 different nationalities on these

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tours those people from all around the

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world that are open-minded i would say

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but when we use the sound that we move

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into this similar kind of space and we

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have had also had joint experiences and

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these are really powerful moving

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experience them it's hard to sort of

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intellectualize it and break it down

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into an english language to convey the

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depth of the experience but quite often

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people will be moved to tears happy

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tears this kind of in a sense of joy

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perhaps there get a deep insight into

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their path moving forwards is something

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I always are very touched by

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or or maybe they're just going for the

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big answers why am I here what's life

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all about and it is certainly possible

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to get get some kind of firm answers to

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these big questions at these moments

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well now when you're talking about Tony

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you're talking about chanting or or do

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you actually have instruments in there

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that it's it doesn't matter you know

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what the tone is is it a certain key is

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it how does that work exactly oh because

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I study the Eastern philosophy mobs do a

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lot of yoga and meditation i mean the

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the most well-known sound that chanted

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or tone that yoga classes is the on

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sound which we're told is the sound of

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the universe so perhaps some ancient

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yogi was in very deep meditation when we

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can only suppose how this sound has come

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to us so it's the vowel sound so it's

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the kind of the oath of the eyes use

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that you're reciting these vowel sounds

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and and what happens when you're inside

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the Great Pyramid the King's Chamber is

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the one that's very resonant to sound so

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when you're in there if you said hello

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you're going to get sort of four bounces

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of your own voice so go hello hello

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hello hello gradually getting fainter

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and fainter so you can use this sound

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effect with a group particularly

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although I can do quite well by myself

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in there so with the with the arm and

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holding that vibration if that's my

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preferred method because it tends to get

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people involved in the process rather

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than using an instrument I do use a drum

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at some of the sites in Europe which

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aren't as sensitive to sound as the

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Great Pyramid so sometimes the drum and

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that's all rhythmic beating can have

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somewhat of a similar effect but there's

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layers to the toning which I try to

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share with the guests on the tours and

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when you really kind of

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your heart and soul involved in the

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process it does get energy moving around

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the body there's no no other way to

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describe it and that's when you can

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really get into these kind of altered

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states of consciousness well you know I

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got an interesting question already

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coming out of the chat room and since

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we're talking about it right now I think

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I'll go ahead and put it to you before

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we break at the top of the hour but der

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in the chat room says what's garys

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thoughts on the worldwide pyramid finds

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and the supposed resonance between those

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geographical points um I'm assuming he's

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probably talking about some of the

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lightest pyramids that are being

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reported or that I don't know if it is

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referring to solve pyramids in Egypt and

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central South America I tend to stick to

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the traditional sites until there's

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empirical evidence i mean i've just

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found so much in Egypt as opposed I

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haven't been to Bosnia yet if that falls

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the pyramids he was referring to I have

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looked at the grapes I mean is there

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some kind of worldwide grid across ley

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lines and these particularly powerful

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places on the planet quite possible but

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again i'm still waiting to be convinced

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of that that point is there some kind of

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grid of pyramids in egypt that's a

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slightly different question i'm more

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closely aligned with that kind of theory

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and there's a brilliant documentary the

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pyramid code which covers that subject

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and because all of these pyramids in

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egypt you can see one site to another

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over sort of them I guess 15 20 miles

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away sometimes they are but from one

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site you can see the Great Pyramid and

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in the Great Pyramid you Abu row ashes

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another site that's not quite so well

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known then it goes to cara and dash or

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so all of these sites sites even though

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it's quite a big distance are in

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sightlines so if I had to give a

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concrete aren't so I think there is

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certainly a smaller grid in Egypt and I

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think we need to find more in terms of a

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worldwide grid yeah you know there are

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some interesting work being done in that

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area several people i know we've had

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court lindell on this show who's a

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researcher who is finding some amazing

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alignments to certain structures

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including the Great Pyramid at Giza and

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other structures and monoliths or

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megalithic structures and and or

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structures that have been built

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specifically on certain points so that

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they line up with that so it'll be

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interesting to find out if there has

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been some some knowledge about

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structuring things and actually even

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some structures right here in the United

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00:26:46,719 --> 00:26:44,659
States that seem to point to to the

546
00:26:50,589 --> 00:26:46,729
Pyramid at Giza and other points of

547
00:26:54,419 --> 00:26:50,599
power throughout the world but it

548
00:26:56,829 --> 00:26:54,429
speaking of such things I know that

549
00:26:59,560 --> 00:26:56,839
there are some places in the United

550
00:27:06,369 --> 00:26:59,570
States they're very interesting in terms

551
00:27:08,019 --> 00:27:06,379
of power points and maybe next half hour

552
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:08,029
we can talk a little bit more about

553
00:27:13,690 --> 00:27:10,369
those in what you have cooking up in

554
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:13,700
terms of the good old USA here pretty

555
00:27:20,589 --> 00:27:17,450
soon sounds good but but again now in

556
00:27:23,519 --> 00:27:20,599
terms of your your your travels in your

557
00:27:26,289 --> 00:27:23,529
tours what have you got coming up next

558
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:26,299
the main ones is I'm going to be in

559
00:27:31,959 --> 00:27:29,210
Egypt twice the star of next year so

560
00:27:34,419 --> 00:27:31,969
I've got a tour in January we've dr.

561
00:27:36,849 --> 00:27:34,429
Robert Schoch which I'm very exciting

562
00:27:38,139 --> 00:27:36,859
we're both speaking at CPAC sorry I'm

563
00:27:39,849 --> 00:27:38,149
looking forward hope he's arriving

564
00:27:43,259 --> 00:27:39,859
tomorrow we have a good chance to ever

565
00:27:47,019 --> 00:27:43,269
catch up and then I'm back knee it in

566
00:27:50,499 --> 00:27:47,029
March with Brian Foster who was ancient

567
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:50,509
aliens Peruvian expert we've done we've

568
00:27:54,909 --> 00:27:52,609
done a couple of tours in Egypt together

569
00:27:57,340 --> 00:27:54,919
so it's about discussing the similar

570
00:28:00,340 --> 00:27:57,350
art is between 40 and Egypt what we see

571
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:00,350
with the megalithic construction how

572
00:28:05,169 --> 00:28:01,730
they're bringing seem to be this

573
00:28:06,970 --> 00:28:05,179
connection with water again sound we see

574
00:28:10,899 --> 00:28:06,980
them in Pireaus or something I talk

575
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:10,909
about in my lectures and also

576
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:13,369
energetically how they may have been

577
00:28:18,070 --> 00:28:15,200
using these subtle energies with these

578
00:28:20,529 --> 00:28:18,080
very tightly into connecting blocks of

579
00:28:22,210 --> 00:28:20,539
granite with a high crystalline content

580
00:28:25,180 --> 00:28:22,220
when that's what we see with this

581
00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:25,190
megalithic construction is always some

582
00:28:31,479 --> 00:28:28,820
kind of crystalline very strong dense

583
00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:31,489
rock involved and it seems to be some

584
00:28:38,909 --> 00:28:33,710
kind of technology that we haven't quite

585
00:28:42,340 --> 00:28:38,919
join the dots on you hmm so all of those

586
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:42,350
two as yeah they're listed on my iPhone

587
00:28:47,470 --> 00:28:45,289
connections doc co dot UK website and

588
00:28:49,869 --> 00:28:47,480
people are always welcome to ask me

589
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:49,879
questions on Facebook quite a lot of

590
00:28:56,109 --> 00:28:52,090
people can reach me on there easily

591
00:28:59,470 --> 00:28:56,119
that's infinite hyphen connections dot

592
00:29:01,359 --> 00:28:59,480
co uk yes that's me and the toes are on

593
00:29:05,499 --> 00:29:01,369
there and that's where the tourists

594
00:29:08,649 --> 00:29:05,509
that's fantastic well um I hope you guys

595
00:29:11,470 --> 00:29:08,659
all connect with Gary also Gary do you

596
00:29:15,220 --> 00:29:11,480
have a facebook page for your tours or

597
00:29:16,859 --> 00:29:15,230
that people can connect with you on yeah

598
00:29:20,289 --> 00:29:16,869
people can find me on infinite

599
00:29:22,419 --> 00:29:20,299
connections on facebook I'm also got a

600
00:29:24,999 --> 00:29:22,429
Gary Evans page and an infinite

601
00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:25,009
connections p our facebook group with a

602
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:27,679
bit more discussion in there so yeah

603
00:29:30,879 --> 00:29:29,450
people should better to look me up and

604
00:29:33,129 --> 00:29:30,889
you can always find me on the Gary Evans

605
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:33,139
Egypt it seems a Google quite well on

606
00:29:38,229 --> 00:29:36,289
that one ride and I know on your

607
00:29:41,049 --> 00:29:38,239
facebook I think there's more than one

608
00:29:44,109 --> 00:29:41,059
Gary Evans but you've always seemed to

609
00:29:45,369 --> 00:29:44,119
have some egyptian picture there so you

610
00:29:48,879 --> 00:29:45,379
can kind of pick you out of the crowd

611
00:29:52,180 --> 00:29:48,889
pretty easily yeah with friends Sekhmet

612
00:29:54,879 --> 00:29:52,190
on my facebook photo that's right that's

613
00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:54,889
right I saw that today all right Gary if

614
00:29:58,479 --> 00:29:56,480
you can hang in there with us and

615
00:30:00,249 --> 00:29:58,489
everybody else to please stay tuned

616
00:30:02,139 --> 00:30:00,259
we're going to take a quick break and

617
00:30:03,999 --> 00:30:02,149
when we come back we're going to be

618
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:04,009
talking about some of these places in

619
00:30:08,570 --> 00:30:05,370
the United States

620
00:30:10,850 --> 00:30:08,580
and around the world and Gary's special

621
00:30:14,330 --> 00:30:10,860
abilities in terms of those so stay

622
00:30:15,350 --> 00:30:14,340
tuned and we'll be right back thanks for

623
00:30:17,900 --> 00:30:15,360
hanging in there with us you're

624
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:17,910
listening to night vision radio I'm your

625
00:30:24,140 --> 00:30:20,250
host Renee Barnett and tonight we're

626
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:24,150
talking with Gary Evans avid world

627
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:27,840
traveler with a twist so Gary we want to

628
00:30:31,610 --> 00:30:29,490
talk about that twist a little bit more

629
00:30:33,620 --> 00:30:31,620
right now I know that you have some

630
00:30:36,850 --> 00:30:33,630
special abilities which you sort of

631
00:30:40,430 --> 00:30:36,860
discovered through time about these

632
00:30:42,650 --> 00:30:40,440
particular types of sites can you go

633
00:30:44,750 --> 00:30:42,660
into that a little bit more and what

634
00:30:46,730 --> 00:30:44,760
that means and share some of those

635
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:46,740
experiences with us so we can kind of

636
00:30:54,020 --> 00:30:50,130
get our heads around it yeah sure well

637
00:30:56,419 --> 00:30:54,030
from my perspective I would say that we

638
00:30:59,720 --> 00:30:56,429
all have this sensitivity and it's like

639
00:31:02,780 --> 00:30:59,730
anything we've experienced we not only

640
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:02,790
grow to trust ourselves but it develops

641
00:31:09,530 --> 00:31:05,690
so it's an ability that we all have

642
00:31:11,419 --> 00:31:09,540
modern cities and things like this which

643
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:11,429
it can be very intense and particularly

644
00:31:15,020 --> 00:31:12,570
when we're talking about all of these

645
00:31:17,870 --> 00:31:15,030
kind of electromagnetic pollution and

646
00:31:20,450 --> 00:31:17,880
things it does that I've lived in cities

647
00:31:22,340 --> 00:31:20,460
recently so it makes you kind of close

648
00:31:25,610 --> 00:31:22,350
down this sensitivity because you would

649
00:31:28,610 --> 00:31:25,620
feel too much now if you develop

650
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:28,620
yourself or pay attention to this side

651
00:31:33,770 --> 00:31:32,130
of yourself as I would say I have been

652
00:31:36,049 --> 00:31:33,780
doing with the yoga as I was describing

653
00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:36,059
tuning into the body seeing what you're

654
00:31:41,270 --> 00:31:39,510
feeling quite often the other side of it

655
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:41,280
is with when we have the guests on the

656
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:44,640
tour's the the normal kind of tourists

657
00:31:48,049 --> 00:31:46,320
way of visiting an ancient site is

658
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:48,059
you'll be shuttled in by the coach

659
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:50,130
you'll have a guide with you that's

660
00:31:53,390 --> 00:31:51,330
going to tell you about the history

661
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:53,400
you're going to have a few minutes to

662
00:31:57,410 --> 00:31:55,290
take pictures of this place that you may

663
00:31:59,960 --> 00:31:57,420
mazing flake so you may never come back

664
00:32:03,080 --> 00:31:59,970
to your just about maybe shoot some

665
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:03,090
video back on the coach and off you go

666
00:32:08,570 --> 00:32:05,130
to the next site so that's why I see

667
00:32:13,070 --> 00:32:08,580
that's the traditional tourist tour of a

668
00:32:14,930 --> 00:32:13,080
temple in Egypt now what I try to do

669
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:14,940
with those interested in their group is

670
00:32:19,130 --> 00:32:17,610
we're going to go into the tour and

671
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:19,140
quite often I will

672
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:20,490
people that are kind of used to being

673
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:23,850
still so they're either they've learned

674
00:32:29,330 --> 00:32:27,360
to meditate or be mindful because it can

675
00:32:30,860 --> 00:32:29,340
be quite uncomfortable for some people

676
00:32:33,170 --> 00:32:30,870
when they haven't practiced these things

677
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:33,180
just sit quietly without too much

678
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:35,250
thought that's difficult for some people

679
00:32:40,790 --> 00:32:38,490
and start of this you could say journey

680
00:32:42,620 --> 00:32:40,800
of self development for once you've

681
00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:42,630
learned to be comfortable in yourself

682
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:45,630
and learnt some kind of even the initial

683
00:32:51,410 --> 00:32:48,570
stages of meditation you're okay you can

684
00:32:53,690 --> 00:32:51,420
sit down and then you start to be a bit

685
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:53,700
more reflective your look maybe looking

686
00:32:58,730 --> 00:32:56,610
at the temple around you you'll start to

687
00:33:02,630 --> 00:32:58,740
hear the birds song as you often do in

688
00:33:04,250 --> 00:33:02,640
the temples in Egypt starting to feel

689
00:33:06,860 --> 00:33:04,260
this kind of because I have palpable

690
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:06,870
atmospheres many of your listeners might

691
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:08,490
be aware when you go into a powerful

692
00:33:13,490 --> 00:33:11,610
cathedral this is kind of still feeling

693
00:33:16,730 --> 00:33:13,500
in the air and it makes you kind of

694
00:33:19,250 --> 00:33:16,740
relax well that's normally friend a lot

695
00:33:20,780 --> 00:33:19,260
of these ancient sites so you can you

696
00:33:23,900 --> 00:33:20,790
can kind of get into that frame of mind

697
00:33:26,660 --> 00:33:23,910
feeling relax starting to sense a bit

698
00:33:28,190 --> 00:33:26,670
more what's around you listening not

699
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:28,200
thinking about what you're going to do

700
00:33:31,550 --> 00:33:29,850
what you're going to have for lunch too

701
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,560
what I need to take a photo of because

702
00:33:34,910 --> 00:33:33,360
these are all things that are kind of

703
00:33:39,140 --> 00:33:34,920
pulling you out of the present moment

704
00:33:40,220 --> 00:33:39,150
it's like this Eckart Tolle he's he's I

705
00:33:44,090 --> 00:33:40,230
think was the best-selling book the

706
00:33:46,670 --> 00:33:44,100
power of now how basking in the present

707
00:33:49,430 --> 00:33:46,680
moment is and it's difficult for many

708
00:33:50,780 --> 00:33:49,440
people I still struggle with this my

709
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:50,790
mind's going to want to think about a

710
00:33:56,510 --> 00:33:54,510
lot of things so breathing breathing can

711
00:33:58,940 --> 00:33:56,520
help take some deep breaths to settle

712
00:34:01,550 --> 00:33:58,950
yourself and then just start to sense

713
00:34:03,410 --> 00:34:01,560
what's around you and when you've

714
00:34:06,980 --> 00:34:03,420
developed this kind of inner sensitivity

715
00:34:09,350 --> 00:34:06,990
through yoga mean tai chi chi gong all

716
00:34:12,169 --> 00:34:09,360
of these kind of techniques and or maybe

717
00:34:14,780 --> 00:34:12,179
you're naturally sensitive that will

718
00:34:17,750 --> 00:34:14,790
start to become a bit more apparent

719
00:34:19,419 --> 00:34:17,760
that's when when you can you were

720
00:34:23,389 --> 00:34:19,429
talking about this kind of energy or the

721
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:23,399
vibrational nature of these ancient

722
00:34:29,630 --> 00:34:27,330
sites and it is true as wacky as it may

723
00:34:31,399 --> 00:34:29,640
sound to some people listening they do

724
00:34:32,990 --> 00:34:31,409
have this they definitely have different

725
00:34:35,260 --> 00:34:33,000
atmospheres at these

726
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:35,270
Paul's you can attune yourself by

727
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:39,210
relaxing into them and that's when what

728
00:34:42,889 --> 00:34:41,040
we're seeing particularly working with

729
00:34:45,260 --> 00:34:42,899
sound but even without the sound if

730
00:34:46,970 --> 00:34:45,270
you're starting to relax the mind you're

731
00:34:48,889 --> 00:34:46,980
going to get more into this kind of

732
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:48,899
right hemisphere or a balanced

733
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:51,810
hemisphere approach the intuitive space

734
00:34:56,210 --> 00:34:53,760
and again I think we all have this

735
00:34:59,780 --> 00:34:56,220
innate intuition it's something that we

736
00:35:03,020 --> 00:34:59,790
have as humans how developed it is again

737
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:03,030
is is practice it's like you could say

738
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:05,730
intuitions like a muscle so if you don't

739
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:07,650
use your intuition very often it's an

740
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:10,290
underdeveloped muscle and if you start

741
00:35:15,590 --> 00:35:12,090
to use it more often it's going to get

742
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:15,600
stronger and it'd be more useful I think

743
00:35:22,010 --> 00:35:19,410
most people the intuition will kick in a

744
00:35:24,350 --> 00:35:22,020
really critical time perhaps something

745
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:24,360
steer you out the way of trouble this

746
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:26,370
kind of thing when there's lots of these

747
00:35:30,860 --> 00:35:28,890
reports that happen it can get through

748
00:35:33,790 --> 00:35:30,870
to us when it's like really critical for

749
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:33,800
self-preservation but we haven't become

750
00:35:39,260 --> 00:35:37,680
able to rely on it on a daily basis so

751
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:39,270
all of these kind of things i would

752
00:35:47,060 --> 00:35:42,710
encourage the guests to do and come in

753
00:35:49,070 --> 00:35:47,070
sit down find yourself a spot and then

754
00:35:51,110 --> 00:35:49,080
just kind of relax and try and be in the

755
00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:51,120
present moment and then start to sort of

756
00:35:57,020 --> 00:35:53,670
open these these extra senses that we

757
00:36:01,130 --> 00:35:57,030
all have and as we go through the tour

758
00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:01,140
the practice starts there to help them

759
00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:03,830
cause i'll be open to questions and

760
00:36:08,810 --> 00:36:06,240
encouraging people and sharing the ways

761
00:36:11,420 --> 00:36:08,820
that i find useful so i can hopefully

762
00:36:15,110 --> 00:36:11,430
share my experience that's but some

763
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:15,120
helpful to other people and and now that

764
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:16,800
i've done it enough with all of these

765
00:36:21,530 --> 00:36:19,170
different groups it's really about just

766
00:36:23,930 --> 00:36:21,540
giving yourself an opportunity we're so

767
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:23,940
busy rushing around that we don't give

768
00:36:29,030 --> 00:36:25,650
that ourselves an opportunity because

769
00:36:31,850 --> 00:36:29,040
these techniques are not just useful for

770
00:36:34,070 --> 00:36:31,860
ancient sites you can be in a beautiful

771
00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:34,080
forest or just out in nature and just

772
00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:35,520
start to be more aware of your

773
00:36:42,020 --> 00:36:38,250
surroundings so i think it's good advice

774
00:36:44,390 --> 00:36:42,030
for everyone really oh absolutely

775
00:36:46,820 --> 00:36:44,400
absolutely i have a i have a terrible

776
00:36:49,580 --> 00:36:46,830
time quieting my mind in it but I

777
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:49,590
really really need to do that now have

778
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:54,330
you noticed that it's helpful to do that

779
00:36:58,670 --> 00:36:56,730
practice outdoors I mean of course I get

780
00:37:01,340 --> 00:36:58,680
the whole idea of meditating in the

781
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:01,350
Egyptian temples and pyramids and things

782
00:37:06,380 --> 00:37:03,210
like that in what would be the purpose

783
00:37:09,650 --> 00:37:06,390
for that but when you're you know what

784
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:09,660
you're on your home turf is it better to

785
00:37:14,510 --> 00:37:11,970
try to connect with the earth is there

786
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:14,520
such a thing as as sort of grounding

787
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:17,010
yourself with the earth or does it

788
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:20,250
matter well a big fan of grounding there

789
00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:22,650
was a good documentary that came out

790
00:37:26,540 --> 00:37:23,670
raising me I think it was called

791
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:26,550
grounded so there's a lot of solid

792
00:37:32,990 --> 00:37:30,690
science about just having you well you

793
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:33,000
can just do your bare feet on the ground

794
00:37:36,740 --> 00:37:35,370
on the grass I mean I love the sand if

795
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:36,750
you're on the beach and you can get your

796
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:38,850
bare feet on the sand that always feels

797
00:37:45,620 --> 00:37:42,450
fantastic and what they know about that

798
00:37:48,140 --> 00:37:45,630
effect is that it's going to is going to

799
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:48,150
slow the heart down it can help lower

800
00:37:54,170 --> 00:37:50,730
blood pressure if you suffer from high

801
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:54,180
blood pressure these techniques could be

802
00:37:59,840 --> 00:37:56,880
useful and so it's worth looking into

803
00:38:03,380 --> 00:37:59,850
that subject but it's yet generally good

804
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:03,390
for distressing I mean the point that

805
00:38:08,570 --> 00:38:05,370
our science is that that we just kind of

806
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:08,580
get starting to grasp how these subtle

807
00:38:14,510 --> 00:38:12,210
energies do affect us so if you really

808
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:14,520
looking into the scientific papers you

809
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:16,050
can find the science that backs these

810
00:38:21,410 --> 00:38:19,200
things up but is it in mainstream public

811
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:21,420
consciousness no not not really because

812
00:38:27,020 --> 00:38:23,310
it's not mentioned very much on the

813
00:38:29,780 --> 00:38:27,030
television and that's really kind of

814
00:38:32,770 --> 00:38:29,790
where I'm I'm looking now we can find

815
00:38:34,940 --> 00:38:32,780
these peer reviewed more often than not

816
00:38:37,310 --> 00:38:34,950
papers the science is kind of

817
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:37,320
established but as it filtered throwing

818
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:41,310
into the mainstream not not so much so

819
00:38:46,220 --> 00:38:44,250
yeah grounding is something that I

820
00:38:49,820 --> 00:38:46,230
normally do it temples anywhere in

821
00:38:53,710 --> 00:38:49,830
nature I mean meditation anywhere is

822
00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:53,720
better than not I meditate on my flights

823
00:39:00,140 --> 00:38:56,730
over I means 10 to 10 hours 15 minutes

824
00:39:02,299 --> 00:39:00,150
from London to LA when I flew I

825
00:39:04,940 --> 00:39:02,309
I did meditate quite a lot of that

826
00:39:08,269 --> 00:39:04,950
flight and it makes journey go a lot

827
00:39:11,450 --> 00:39:08,279
quicker well that was a pretty a pretty

828
00:39:13,370 --> 00:39:11,460
fast flight yeah I think we had a good

829
00:39:15,049 --> 00:39:13,380
tile win this time yeah absolutely

830
00:39:17,329 --> 00:39:15,059
because I know that flight can be

831
00:39:19,190 --> 00:39:17,339
anywhere from 10 to 12 hours and it

832
00:39:22,730 --> 00:39:19,200
seems like every every other time I've

833
00:39:24,589 --> 00:39:22,740
made it it's been the 12 yeah here's

834
00:39:28,099 --> 00:39:24,599
like it what am I going to get out of

835
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:28,109
this plane but yeah it's good i guess it

836
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:31,049
is ideal that you could do this practice

837
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:33,569
anywhere and that's I guess that's the

838
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:35,910
whole point but I do like the idea of

839
00:39:39,049 --> 00:39:37,410
the grounding as well and I know what

840
00:39:41,089 --> 00:39:39,059
you mean about just getting your bare

841
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:41,099
feet on earth you know either on the

842
00:39:49,609 --> 00:39:44,210
grass or on the dirt or on in the sand

843
00:39:54,109 --> 00:39:49,619
it does have a very calming effect

844
00:39:55,940 --> 00:39:54,119
definitely yeah like I mean it kind of

845
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:55,950
sort of takes you back to childhood as

846
00:40:02,539 --> 00:39:57,930
well when we all went barefoot outside

847
00:40:06,589 --> 00:40:02,549
and played and it is a very very good

848
00:40:08,359 --> 00:40:06,599
feeling well I think no oh go ahead well

849
00:40:10,460 --> 00:40:08,369
just to pick up on the childhood point

850
00:40:12,799 --> 00:40:10,470
because a lot of those the things

851
00:40:14,839 --> 00:40:12,809
spending time in nature yeah the bear

852
00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:14,849
the barefoot thing that means yes

853
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:16,500
swimming in in the ocean the

854
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:19,770
appreciation of nature there was I used

855
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:21,690
to love that as a child and then when I

856
00:40:27,529 --> 00:40:24,450
saw went into the 95 office environment

857
00:40:29,569 --> 00:40:27,539
I didn't have a lot of time to do that

858
00:40:32,809 --> 00:40:29,579
anymore and he got to a point where I

859
00:40:35,059 --> 00:40:32,819
wasn't doing it at all and as I've gone

860
00:40:36,890 --> 00:40:35,069
down this self development path and then

861
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:36,900
started to pick up these things that I

862
00:40:41,420 --> 00:40:39,180
used to enjoy as a child it's like a

863
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:41,430
light bulb going off because they bring

864
00:40:48,410 --> 00:40:44,970
us that joy we felt as a child you can

865
00:40:50,170 --> 00:40:48,420
still experience it as an adult and yeah

866
00:40:54,589 --> 00:40:50,180
I think that's been one of the biggest

867
00:40:57,140 --> 00:40:54,599
revelations that we try inner peace this

868
00:41:00,620 --> 00:40:57,150
sort I mean you can just boil it down to

869
00:41:03,260 --> 00:41:00,630
our stressed lives when we're very busy

870
00:41:05,930 --> 00:41:03,270
if we're not able to find time to give

871
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:05,940
ourselves a chance to relax and then of

872
00:41:10,309 --> 00:41:07,920
course the stress compounds and we just

873
00:41:14,170 --> 00:41:10,319
get more and more more stressed so a lot

874
00:41:16,570 --> 00:41:14,180
of these techniques or timeout

875
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:16,580
I really really fundamentally do need

876
00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:22,640
them now getting back to your sort of

877
00:41:29,650 --> 00:41:25,730
abilities in terms of these sites now

878
00:41:31,930 --> 00:41:29,660
can you just sort of walk us through one

879
00:41:34,930 --> 00:41:31,940
of your more powerful experiences at

880
00:41:38,740 --> 00:41:34,940
these sites and what it is that you feel

881
00:41:42,310 --> 00:41:38,750
and are able to pick up on yes nor would

882
00:41:45,310 --> 00:41:42,320
be glad to nor will dig out a quote for

883
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:45,320
you but 10 I mean I've had many powerful

884
00:41:51,580 --> 00:41:48,880
experiences in in the Great Pyramid and

885
00:41:56,140 --> 00:41:51,590
that never fails to disappoint when we

886
00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:56,150
work with the sound I mean I've had it

887
00:41:59,890 --> 00:41:58,610
felt like an epiphany when I was in the

888
00:42:03,580 --> 00:41:59,900
Great Pyramid when we're talking about

889
00:42:05,830 --> 00:42:03,590
this arm sound and the Yogi's call it

890
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:05,840
the sound of the universe well when

891
00:42:10,780 --> 00:42:08,240
we've worked we have quite often have to

892
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:10,790
our private visits inside the Great

893
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:14,450
Pyramid so it's just rare group when you

894
00:42:20,950 --> 00:42:17,930
work with them that sound on and you

895
00:42:23,290 --> 00:42:20,960
probably take you about God so sort of

896
00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:23,300
20 minutes you start getting an effect

897
00:42:28,750 --> 00:42:25,040
and after about a half an hour point

898
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:28,760
using that sound as a group it does feel

899
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:32,330
like you're starting to merging into

900
00:42:38,490 --> 00:42:34,610
something much greater than you these

901
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:42,390
there's this kind of coming and going

902
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:45,170
nature in the window in the Great

903
00:42:50,050 --> 00:42:47,450
Pyramid so the sound kind of comes and

904
00:42:52,330 --> 00:42:50,060
goes and I clearly describe it is it's a

905
00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:52,340
bit like the waves on the shore with

906
00:42:57,700 --> 00:42:55,280
this sound so it comes in there now in

907
00:42:59,620 --> 00:42:57,710
here now and this is kind of relaxing

908
00:43:02,290 --> 00:42:59,630
feeling but the sound of course is

909
00:43:04,570 --> 00:43:02,300
coming straight through your body you're

910
00:43:07,420 --> 00:43:04,580
in this massive chamber the King's

911
00:43:10,830 --> 00:43:07,430
Chamber whole thing's resonating with

912
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:10,840
sound around you and there's this some

913
00:43:18,090 --> 00:43:15,290
term called sympathetic resonance so if

914
00:43:21,970 --> 00:43:18,100
you vibrate something strongly enough

915
00:43:24,340 --> 00:43:21,980
something inside it particularly it's

916
00:43:25,570 --> 00:43:24,350
like if you were vibrating a glass and

917
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:25,580
there's something inside the glass

918
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:27,690
you'll start to see it jumping

919
00:43:32,630 --> 00:43:30,210
around so this is the kind of effect

920
00:43:35,809 --> 00:43:32,640
that's happening on the human body when

921
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:35,819
you're inside so we're moving to this

922
00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:39,569
kind of intuitive space this some very

923
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:42,480
creative space where you can add these

924
00:43:47,930 --> 00:43:45,089
very deep epiphanies and quite often at

925
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:47,940
that stage if I've been asking a deep

926
00:43:54,859 --> 00:43:50,970
question about perhaps what I need to do

927
00:43:56,599 --> 00:43:54,869
next in my life is there something that

928
00:43:58,569 --> 00:43:56,609
I can share with people because really

929
00:44:02,480 --> 00:43:58,579
that's what I'm trying to inspire myself

930
00:44:04,250 --> 00:44:02,490
trying to grow and hopefully share

931
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:04,260
something of value to others that's

932
00:44:08,630 --> 00:44:06,930
really the main point of what I'm trying

933
00:44:10,460 --> 00:44:08,640
to get to at the moment I want useful

934
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:10,470
things that can help other people also

935
00:44:17,150 --> 00:44:13,200
be inspired and for them to find their

936
00:44:20,890 --> 00:44:17,160
way forwards so that's quite from what

937
00:44:24,260 --> 00:44:20,900
I'm doing when we're in Great Pyramid

938
00:44:27,550 --> 00:44:24,270
you know someone in the chat room

939
00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:27,560
calling themselves one eternal being

940
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:30,329
says I have recordings of many of the

941
00:44:35,839 --> 00:44:32,010
chance all done in the Great Pyramid

942
00:44:39,020 --> 00:44:35,849
have you recorded any of those um yeah

943
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:39,030
on your trips if it don't do you listen

944
00:44:46,970 --> 00:44:44,089
to them back uh when you're back home or

945
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:46,980
well yeah there's a few clips of me on

946
00:44:52,940 --> 00:44:49,680
youtube I've shared them I think the

947
00:44:55,540 --> 00:44:52,950
most profound I've had some very good

948
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:55,550
feedback from people listening to my

949
00:45:03,500 --> 00:44:58,290
toning because there are I mean my style

950
00:45:05,059 --> 00:45:03,510
was a bit different to most people I had

951
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:05,069
a lot of time to experiment with it's

952
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:06,450
almost like an experiment sound

953
00:45:12,109 --> 00:45:09,690
experimentation chamber inside the Great

954
00:45:14,569 --> 00:45:12,119
Pyramid so you can kind of use a sound

955
00:45:18,829 --> 00:45:14,579
and then with my sensitivity I can see

956
00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:18,839
how it's affecting my he saw I had quite

957
00:45:22,849 --> 00:45:20,730
a lot of these different periods when i

958
00:45:24,829 --> 00:45:22,859
first started and i came up with a

959
00:45:28,339 --> 00:45:24,839
technique that i now try and share with

960
00:45:30,620 --> 00:45:28,349
the groups which i would say energizes

961
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:30,630
the body and probably gets you into a

962
00:45:37,579 --> 00:45:34,800
clearer frame of mind and I I was at a

963
00:45:39,770 --> 00:45:37,589
conference in Minneapolis last year and

964
00:45:41,150 --> 00:45:39,780
I had a huge speaker setup we almost had

965
00:45:43,339 --> 00:45:41,160
like a concert

966
00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:43,349
speaker setup I think it's thirdly forty

967
00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:45,420
thousand dollars the audiovisual setup

968
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:47,400
for the conference so I work with the

969
00:45:52,250 --> 00:45:50,250
audio guys to try and get my recording

970
00:45:53,690 --> 00:45:52,260
as close to the Great Pyramid as I could

971
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:53,700
because it's got these very low bass

972
00:45:59,359 --> 00:45:56,720
tones that penetrate deep into the body

973
00:46:01,010 --> 00:45:59,369
and there was a radio show host and it

974
00:46:04,279 --> 00:46:01,020
was a huge room we had it was like 200

975
00:46:07,250 --> 00:46:04,289
feet long because it was an old station

976
00:46:12,020 --> 00:46:07,260
waiting room and this radio show host

977
00:46:13,940 --> 00:46:12,030
was saw 150 feet or so away from me and

978
00:46:16,670 --> 00:46:13,950
she she didn't know what I was saying

979
00:46:19,279 --> 00:46:16,680
but when I finished giving the lecture

980
00:46:21,319 --> 00:46:19,289
she she came up to me and she said I

981
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:21,329
felt like I was pushed out on my body

982
00:46:25,819 --> 00:46:24,210
when I was listening to that recording

983
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:25,829
what kind of what on earth were you

984
00:46:30,859 --> 00:46:28,650
doing and I explained to her that when

985
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,869
when she felt this kind of sensation I

986
00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:32,400
was explaining to people that these

987
00:46:37,730 --> 00:46:34,710
sound frequencies can basically move

988
00:46:41,990 --> 00:46:37,740
your awareness it works he's like

989
00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:42,000
Kundalini works with the energy up the

990
00:46:48,109 --> 00:46:45,660
spinal column and I was explaining this

991
00:46:50,029 --> 00:46:48,119
process as I was playing the recording

992
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:50,039
basically and she felt like her energy

993
00:46:54,650 --> 00:46:52,890
got pushed at the top of her head and

994
00:46:57,410 --> 00:46:54,660
initially I thought she was actually

995
00:46:58,450 --> 00:46:57,420
telling me off for playing the recording

996
00:47:00,650 --> 00:46:58,460
but she said it was the most amazing

997
00:47:03,049 --> 00:47:00,660
experience but it took her a while to

998
00:47:07,460 --> 00:47:03,059
kind of feel like she was back on planet

999
00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:07,470
Earth that's not such a bad thing I

1000
00:47:13,730 --> 00:47:11,700
would think going a little trip people &

1001
00:47:15,980 --> 00:47:13,740
advisory notice now and I play these

1002
00:47:18,740 --> 00:47:15,990
recordings on huge sound systems because

1003
00:47:21,799 --> 00:47:18,750
the sound frequencies can I mean she was

1004
00:47:23,299 --> 00:47:21,809
obviously very sensitive but it I did

1005
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:23,309
have a very good perception from the

1006
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,510
audience and it's something a bit

1007
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:26,880
different so you had a lot of questions

1008
00:47:33,849 --> 00:47:30,510
from people after that so you played

1009
00:47:36,799 --> 00:47:33,859
these recordings at a conference and

1010
00:47:38,990 --> 00:47:36,809
obviously you are not in a pyramid but

1011
00:47:41,539 --> 00:47:39,000
you were playing back the recordings

1012
00:47:44,269 --> 00:47:41,549
that you made in the pyramid and they

1013
00:47:48,019 --> 00:47:44,279
did have an effect still even outside

1014
00:47:51,380 --> 00:47:48,029
that venue outside that pyramid location

1015
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:51,390
they still had the effect yes the tones

1016
00:47:55,010 --> 00:47:54,480
did oh that's good to know i'm going to

1017
00:47:58,340 --> 00:47:55,020
have to go

1018
00:48:01,840 --> 00:47:58,350
on youtube and find um how do you look

1019
00:48:07,670 --> 00:48:01,850
that up on youtube just Gary Evans a

1020
00:48:10,490 --> 00:48:07,680
sound what is a good question I bet I

1021
00:48:12,410 --> 00:48:10,500
could find it there's a courier right

1022
00:48:15,410 --> 00:48:12,420
parameter something's on there somewhere

1023
00:48:18,380 --> 00:48:15,420
yeah Gary Evans pyramid or toning or

1024
00:48:19,610 --> 00:48:18,390
something like that possibly yeah I'm

1025
00:48:22,070 --> 00:48:19,620
going to have to check that out that's

1026
00:48:26,060 --> 00:48:22,080
really interesting because it seems like

1027
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:26,070
now sort of the science is catching up

1028
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:29,280
with some of these things that we just

1029
00:48:33,740 --> 00:48:31,170
thought you know in the past I've been

1030
00:48:37,130 --> 00:48:33,750
thought to sort of either be spiritual

1031
00:48:39,110 --> 00:48:37,140
magical or just a hoax now there are

1032
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:39,120
certain ways to quantify certain things

1033
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:41,610
as you were saying so it's kind of

1034
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:44,810
interesting and wonderful to have that

1035
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:47,040
corroboration that there is really

1036
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:51,290
something going on it's not imagination

1037
00:48:56,090 --> 00:48:53,760
no well that's so that's what I'm going

1038
00:48:58,390 --> 00:48:56,100
to be talking about CPAC this weekend

1039
00:49:00,800 --> 00:48:58,400
these various papers that have been

1040
00:49:04,250 --> 00:49:00,810
released and in fact this information

1041
00:49:06,170 --> 00:49:04,260
has been in the public domain well

1042
00:49:07,790 --> 00:49:06,180
they've been certainly back to the at

1043
00:49:10,150 --> 00:49:07,800
least the mid nineties where they've

1044
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:10,160
started to see that there's this

1045
00:49:15,340 --> 00:49:12,570
engineering she has been done at these

1046
00:49:17,630 --> 00:49:15,350
ancient sites and it isn't just a

1047
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:17,640
accidental that they can see it's part

1048
00:49:24,830 --> 00:49:22,290
of the design for the sites of course

1049
00:49:27,260 --> 00:49:24,840
it's a bit subjective okay with is it's

1050
00:49:30,350 --> 00:49:27,270
a coup stick effect at the site what

1051
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:30,360
were they doing with it but when we

1052
00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:34,050
start to see that the frequency these

1053
00:49:39,950 --> 00:49:36,960
hundred and ten Hertz seems to be the

1054
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:39,960
pitch that is the common point between a

1055
00:49:44,780 --> 00:49:41,250
lot of these sites and we talked about

1056
00:49:46,130 --> 00:49:44,790
sites in Egypt Peru England common

1057
00:49:48,290 --> 00:49:46,140
traits between all of these different

1058
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:48,300
countries all tuned to this same pitch

1059
00:49:53,780 --> 00:49:51,930
and then when we look at the BCG on the

1060
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:53,790
brain we see that there around this

1061
00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:56,130
hundred and ten Hertz that's when we're

1062
00:50:01,340 --> 00:49:58,410
having this big shift with the left and

1063
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:01,350
right side of dominance so the science

1064
00:50:04,910 --> 00:50:03,210
yeah there's not really any arguments

1065
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:04,920
these are peer review papers they got

1066
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:07,410
their coming from leading universities

1067
00:50:11,690 --> 00:50:08,530
multiple unit

1068
00:50:13,650 --> 00:50:11,700
he's at this point that are finding and

1069
00:50:17,790 --> 00:50:13,660
researchers around the world that are

1070
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:17,800
finding the same effect the point that

1071
00:50:23,820 --> 00:50:21,010
we're we're kind of missing the science

1072
00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:23,830
can prove the sound frequencies they can

1073
00:50:29,130 --> 00:50:26,470
prove what's happening to the brain but

1074
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:29,140
mystical states of consciousness is not

1075
00:50:33,470 --> 00:50:30,970
something that we have the measuring

1076
00:50:37,230 --> 00:50:33,480
equipment for and that's in fact what

1077
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:37,240
Miriam Kohler at Stanford made the point

1078
00:50:42,570 --> 00:50:40,000
now because consciousness our awareness

1079
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:42,580
what's happening in the mind these are

1080
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:44,800
all very difficult things that are

1081
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:47,650
science hasn't really got to grips with

1082
00:50:54,750 --> 00:50:51,850
it still thinks that the human condition

1083
00:50:57,210 --> 00:50:54,760
dies a death that there isn't

1084
00:51:00,480 --> 00:50:57,220
reincarnation this kind of aspect of the

1085
00:51:02,990 --> 00:51:00,490
soul something continues after death

1086
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:03,000
even though we have all of these ancient

1087
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:05,200
traditions that tell us that there's

1088
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:08,770
something more to us something much

1089
00:51:15,060 --> 00:51:11,050
deeper but our science can't measure

1090
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:15,070
that whatever that missing quota is we

1091
00:51:18,930 --> 00:51:17,410
haven't got we can't detect it we can't

1092
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:18,940
detect it we can't measure it we can't

1093
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:21,310
put it apart in the lab laboratory we

1094
00:51:26,820 --> 00:51:23,710
can't design it can't grow it then it

1095
00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:26,830
doesn't exist these basically what where

1096
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:29,230
we are even though many of us probably

1097
00:51:36,690 --> 00:51:32,110
feel that there is something much deeper

1098
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:36,700
to the human condition oh yeah well I

1099
00:51:43,380 --> 00:51:40,450
certainly hope so and I think that's

1100
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:43,390
been proven time and time again you know

1101
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:47,130
by individuals for themselves personally

1102
00:51:55,410 --> 00:51:54,250
but now you were talking about and we're

1103
00:51:59,190 --> 00:51:55,420
going to take another break in just a

1104
00:52:02,520 --> 00:51:59,200
few minutes but maybe if we could just

1105
00:52:05,730 --> 00:52:02,530
sort of touch on what are some of the

1106
00:52:09,510 --> 00:52:05,740
places here in United States and North

1107
00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:09,520
America you know we were all familiar

1108
00:52:16,740 --> 00:52:12,550
with the ancient sites in in the UK and

1109
00:52:19,470 --> 00:52:16,750
in Egypt and throughout Europe and Asia

1110
00:52:21,850 --> 00:52:19,480
but you know we're kind of newbies over

1111
00:52:24,970 --> 00:52:21,860
here in the United States

1112
00:52:29,620 --> 00:52:24,980
but that doesn't mean that we don't have

1113
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:29,630
our own places that carry this their own

1114
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:32,960
energy in our very special places can

1115
00:52:39,340 --> 00:52:34,880
you sort of give us an idea about what

1116
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:39,350
what some of those places are yeah well

1117
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:41,210
for sure I mean it's easy to answer the

1118
00:52:48,250 --> 00:52:44,110
question you could start off in Sedona

1119
00:52:50,530 --> 00:52:48,260
which is sure gets considered by many as

1120
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:50,540
the kind of spiritual heartland of the

1121
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:52,850
u.s. we ran the CPAC conference down

1122
00:53:00,400 --> 00:52:56,930
there it was in 2011 I mean I could feel

1123
00:53:02,530 --> 00:53:00,410
the you could say I could fill the area

1124
00:53:05,380 --> 00:53:02,540
from about 50 miles away as we were

1125
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:05,390
driving down due to my sensitivity and

1126
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:07,610
he didn't disappoint me when it's

1127
00:53:13,930 --> 00:53:10,850
amazing red rocks landscape and what

1128
00:53:17,470 --> 00:53:13,940
you've minds that these places that have

1129
00:53:19,630 --> 00:53:17,480
a kind of mythos or attract lots of

1130
00:53:23,290 --> 00:53:19,640
different interesting people I mean

1131
00:53:26,020 --> 00:53:23,300
Sedonas the kind of glastonbury of the

1132
00:53:27,820 --> 00:53:26,030
u.s. so it's very easy to say well go

1133
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:27,830
there because I don't think anyone in

1134
00:53:31,090 --> 00:53:29,570
these interests in these kind of

1135
00:53:33,550 --> 00:53:31,100
subjects that hasn't been will be

1136
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:33,560
disappointed but there are many more I

1137
00:53:38,350 --> 00:53:36,890
mean when we I guess when we think how

1138
00:53:42,370 --> 00:53:38,360
is it that you're comparing it to

1139
00:53:45,370 --> 00:53:42,380
Glastonbury I'd be curious is it with

1140
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:45,380
the energy you mean or whoa I've

1141
00:53:51,790 --> 00:53:47,930
actually just before I left for the US i

1142
00:53:53,890 --> 00:53:51,800
went to Glastonbury for a little top up

1143
00:53:56,860 --> 00:53:53,900
but yes only energetically I mean I I

1144
00:54:00,820 --> 00:53:56,870
see sedona AZ that as this kind you

1145
00:54:04,330 --> 00:54:00,830
could say spiritual heartland of America

1146
00:54:06,490 --> 00:54:04,340
it seems seems to people gravitate

1147
00:54:08,590 --> 00:54:06,500
towards it I know quite a few people

1148
00:54:10,950 --> 00:54:08,600
that live there but similarly I've spent

1149
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:10,960
a lot of time in Glastonbury I'd say

1150
00:54:16,540 --> 00:54:14,330
Glastonbury has is the same source I

1151
00:54:19,540 --> 00:54:16,550
mean the history in Grafton be

1152
00:54:22,930 --> 00:54:19,550
incredible but it's also aa build

1153
00:54:26,020 --> 00:54:22,940
absolutely because of the the place it's

1154
00:54:28,180 --> 00:54:26,030
about the place the energy the energy

1155
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:28,190
they're the kind of feeling in the air

1156
00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:31,490
and I mean the month Walter Walter there

1157
00:54:35,980 --> 00:54:35,510
is amazing and you go there and there

1158
00:54:37,540 --> 00:54:35,990
are some

1159
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:37,550
places where you can kind of get this

1160
00:54:41,650 --> 00:54:40,610
energetic charged up you could put it a

1161
00:54:44,650 --> 00:54:41,660
different way if you didn't want to talk

1162
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:44,660
about it in terms of spirituality you go

1163
00:54:49,090 --> 00:54:46,850
there perhaps feeling a bit tired and

1164
00:54:52,650 --> 00:54:49,100
you kind of get this zach of something i

1165
00:54:57,700 --> 00:54:52,660
would call it an agenda yeah isn't

1166
00:55:02,260 --> 00:54:57,710
Glastonbury on the Marion Michael ley

1167
00:55:06,220 --> 00:55:02,270
lines yet go up through the United

1168
00:55:08,170 --> 00:55:06,230
Kingdom and I think that you know maybe

1169
00:55:10,630 --> 00:55:08,180
one of the reasons although you know

1170
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:10,640
obviously I'm no expert but it seems

1171
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:13,250
that i remembered that and i do recall

1172
00:55:18,970 --> 00:55:15,890
you know how Glastonbury felt I have a

1173
00:55:21,220 --> 00:55:18,980
great friend and fellow researcher who

1174
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:21,230
lives in Glastonbury so I've been there

1175
00:55:26,250 --> 00:55:24,410
a couple of times and you know and

1176
00:55:28,270 --> 00:55:26,260
staying with her she lives right near

1177
00:55:32,590 --> 00:55:28,280
you know the sort of the village the

1178
00:55:35,859 --> 00:55:32,600
high street and it's it is a wonderful

1179
00:55:39,940 --> 00:55:35,869
feeling there it's it's pretty amazing

1180
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:39,950
and so and I've been to Sedona so I see

1181
00:55:44,380 --> 00:55:41,690
what you're saying there is something

1182
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:44,390
energetic although to me it's a

1183
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:47,210
different energy you know in new places

1184
00:55:53,310 --> 00:55:50,450
have their own sort of frequency their

1185
00:55:56,620 --> 00:55:53,320
own sort of resonance or their own

1186
00:55:58,630 --> 00:55:56,630
feeling well that that's the thing I

1187
00:56:00,550 --> 00:55:58,640
mean once you start becoming attuned

1188
00:56:02,770 --> 00:56:00,560
that then you're going to be more aware

1189
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:02,780
of the differences between these places

1190
00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:04,730
and if anything I'd say I preferred

1191
00:56:11,500 --> 00:56:08,510
Sedona to Glastonbury because the

1192
00:56:14,020 --> 00:56:11,510
measuring stick that i will use is how

1193
00:56:17,859 --> 00:56:14,030
do i feel in the temples in Egypt where

1194
00:56:20,170 --> 00:56:17,869
I I mean if there's a scale of me Eve my

1195
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:20,180
either my consciousness my awareness my

1196
00:56:25,420 --> 00:56:23,570
happiness and the Egyptian temples is

1197
00:56:28,300 --> 00:56:25,430
where I would say that's my kind of 10

1198
00:56:32,020 --> 00:56:28,310
that's where I'm at my most my most

1199
00:56:36,130 --> 00:56:32,030
happy or the best place in myself that

1200
00:56:38,950 --> 00:56:36,140
i've i've been to i guess i'd probably

1201
00:56:41,349 --> 00:56:38,960
give Sedona and eight on that scale and

1202
00:56:44,849 --> 00:56:41,359
Glastonbury I mean if I had to a perhaps

1203
00:56:48,730 --> 00:56:44,859
a six I definitely felt stronger happier

1204
00:56:49,819 --> 00:56:48,740
more intuitive in Sedona and I think

1205
00:56:51,829 --> 00:56:49,829
it's because of the

1206
00:56:53,660 --> 00:56:51,839
when one of the things I was gonna look

1207
00:56:57,170 --> 00:56:53,670
at in the TV show is the geology of

1208
00:56:59,180 --> 00:56:57,180
these areas and in Sedona you've let the

1209
00:57:00,979 --> 00:56:59,190
eve let the cat out of the bag there for

1210
00:57:05,870 --> 00:57:00,989
a second we're going to follow up on

1211
00:57:08,029 --> 00:57:05,880
that that's right since you since you've

1212
00:57:09,620 --> 00:57:08,039
done it now we're gonna follow up on

1213
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:09,630
that right when we come back from this

1214
00:57:13,999 --> 00:57:12,089
next break so I hope you guys will all

1215
00:57:15,319 --> 00:57:14,009
stay with us and Gary you hang in there

1216
00:57:17,180 --> 00:57:15,329
thanks so much for being with us we're

1217
00:57:20,359 --> 00:57:17,190
talking with Gary Evans and we'll be

1218
00:57:22,069 --> 00:57:20,369
right back hi if you're just joining us

1219
00:57:24,859 --> 00:57:22,079
you're listening to night vision radio

1220
00:57:27,319 --> 00:57:24,869
I'm your host Renee Barnett and tonight

1221
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:27,329
we're talking with Gary Evans world

1222
00:57:35,779 --> 00:57:30,930
traveler and gosh what do we call you

1223
00:57:37,549 --> 00:57:35,789
Gary a human dowser or actually dowsers

1224
00:57:39,289 --> 00:57:37,559
or it can be human but they usually use

1225
00:57:41,779 --> 00:57:39,299
an instrument in your body seems to be

1226
00:57:43,609 --> 00:57:41,789
your instrument saying yeah it seems to

1227
00:57:46,609 --> 00:57:43,619
be well sort of a lot of those different

1228
00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:46,619
things experience that's right i think

1229
00:57:51,529 --> 00:57:49,049
i'll go with experiential ancient sites

1230
00:57:54,289 --> 00:57:51,539
to a guy normally something like that oh

1231
00:57:57,439 --> 00:57:54,299
that sounds good that sounds really good

1232
00:58:00,259 --> 00:57:57,449
and that's very very apropos now before

1233
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:00,269
we went on the break you let something

1234
00:58:05,209 --> 00:58:01,890
slip i don't know if it was intentional

1235
00:58:08,870 --> 00:58:05,219
or not but you were talking about a TV

1236
00:58:12,859 --> 00:58:08,880
show and i happen to have some inside

1237
00:58:18,650 --> 00:58:12,869
knowledge that in development is a

1238
00:58:21,380 --> 00:58:18,660
series that would be visiting these

1239
00:58:24,349 --> 00:58:21,390
particular types of sites in inside the

1240
00:58:26,809 --> 00:58:24,359
united states is that fair enough i

1241
00:58:28,670 --> 00:58:26,819
suppose i give too much away so i'm

1242
00:58:31,729 --> 00:58:28,680
going to let you say anything else about

1243
00:58:34,309 --> 00:58:31,739
it that that you'd like to say but i

1244
00:58:38,059 --> 00:58:34,319
know that you have some of your

1245
00:58:41,539 --> 00:58:38,069
colleagues involved on a consultancy

1246
00:58:45,489 --> 00:58:41,549
basis and that would more than likely be

1247
00:58:50,539 --> 00:58:45,499
a part of the be on camera cast as well

1248
00:58:52,809 --> 00:58:50,549
but what's exciting about it to me into

1249
00:58:55,789 --> 00:58:52,819
a lot of a lot of the listeners here is

1250
00:58:59,329 --> 00:58:55,799
that the what you're first going to

1251
00:59:02,539 --> 00:58:59,339
tackle are the sites in the united

1252
00:59:03,470 --> 00:59:02,549
states yeah and just as we were talking

1253
00:59:06,020 --> 00:59:03,480
about on the bright

1254
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:06,030
get so wonderful to have some of these

1255
00:59:10,700 --> 00:59:09,570
things coming out for people here in the

1256
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:10,710
United States because it seems like

1257
00:59:19,070 --> 00:59:13,440
everything is back in Europe everything

1258
00:59:21,170 --> 00:59:19,080
is back in Egypt or Asia some other what

1259
00:59:22,910 --> 00:59:21,180
feels like a more ancient place but of

1260
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:22,920
course our land has been here just as

1261
00:59:30,890 --> 00:59:27,330
long as the land has been possibly not

1262
00:59:35,300 --> 00:59:30,900
certain civilizations but or certain

1263
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:35,310
societies but can you give me any more

1264
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:37,130
information I don't want to pry too much

1265
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:40,770
yeah about you had in mind well quite

1266
00:59:47,690 --> 00:59:43,609
happy to share well first of all when

1267
00:59:49,340 --> 00:59:47,700
what I'm trying to do is extract some of

1268
00:59:51,770 --> 00:59:49,350
this information that we're discussing

1269
00:59:54,050 --> 00:59:51,780
and take it to a larger audiences all

1270
00:59:57,109 --> 00:59:54,060
the questions in my mind what's relevant

1271
00:59:59,359 --> 00:59:57,119
and useful to the biggest number of

1272
01:00:03,020 --> 00:59:59,369
people what's the biggest contribution I

1273
01:00:05,780 --> 01:00:03,030
can make what are our ancient ancestors

1274
01:00:09,500 --> 01:00:05,790
what did they know that we've lost that

1275
01:00:12,380 --> 01:00:09,510
still can help us in our daily lives and

1276
01:00:14,890 --> 01:00:12,390
when we have this problem with stress

1277
01:00:17,390 --> 01:00:14,900
and all of these other modern-day

1278
01:00:20,810 --> 01:00:17,400
problems that we're having to obviously

1279
01:00:24,170 --> 01:00:20,820
treat quite serious conditions but when

1280
01:00:26,690 --> 01:00:24,180
there's ways that these things have been

1281
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:26,700
dealt with in the past and again it's

1282
01:00:32,900 --> 01:00:28,890
really about my love our guests for the

1283
01:00:35,390 --> 01:00:32,910
landscape and animals and this this kind

1284
01:00:38,180 --> 01:00:35,400
of thing and the joy that I get from it

1285
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:38,190
so inspiring people to visit places but

1286
01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:40,410
then when we put another layer on top of

1287
01:00:45,500 --> 01:00:42,510
just the natural beauty that's in this

1288
01:00:48,770 --> 01:00:45,510
country where we have these powerful

1289
01:00:50,630 --> 01:00:48,780
sites and of course I mean an easy kind

1290
01:00:55,580 --> 01:00:50,640
of measuring stick is where did the

1291
01:00:57,770 --> 01:00:55,590
native peoples venerate because yes once

1292
01:01:00,620 --> 01:00:57,780
you start to understand that there are

1293
01:01:03,830 --> 01:01:00,630
these subtleties if within nature and

1294
01:01:06,020 --> 01:01:03,840
that the native peoples had an

1295
01:01:07,849 --> 01:01:06,030
understanding of this way of reading the

1296
01:01:10,250 --> 01:01:07,859
landscape and they they don't just

1297
01:01:12,349 --> 01:01:10,260
choose random locations we might try to

1298
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:12,359
think or they've just tried to make this

1299
01:01:17,130 --> 01:01:15,210
mounting special because it happened to

1300
01:01:19,019 --> 01:01:17,140
be local to them but it's

1301
01:01:21,150 --> 01:01:19,029
local to them because they they've been

1302
01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:21,160
traveling through the landscape felt

1303
01:01:26,549 --> 01:01:24,190
this feeling and then decided to make it

1304
01:01:28,829 --> 01:01:26,559
home at some point so it's not just

1305
01:01:31,740 --> 01:01:28,839
random locations and whenever I go to

1306
01:01:34,309 --> 01:01:31,750
these places I give myself an

1307
01:01:37,259 --> 01:01:34,319
opportunity to try and pick up on that I

1308
01:01:39,269 --> 01:01:37,269
very rarely been disappointed and this

1309
01:01:41,579 --> 01:01:39,279
is really the kind of mental leap I'm

1310
01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:41,589
trying so I'm going to try and convey

1311
01:01:48,809 --> 01:01:45,569
this in a TV show so so what we can do

1312
01:01:50,910 --> 01:01:48,819
Robert Schoch who's a geologist at

1313
01:01:53,279 --> 01:01:50,920
Boston University I've talked very

1314
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:53,289
fortunate to have got got to know him

1315
01:01:59,069 --> 01:01:56,640
he's he's most well known for his

1316
01:02:01,440 --> 01:01:59,079
geological analysis of the Sphinx in

1317
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:01,450
Egypt he was in emmy award winning

1318
01:02:06,269 --> 01:02:03,970
documentary that i've been talking to

1319
01:02:09,450 --> 01:02:06,279
him about the much natural forces of the

1320
01:02:12,210 --> 01:02:09,460
earth and again when we start to look at

1321
01:02:14,940 --> 01:02:12,220
fault lines where where we have this

1322
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:14,950
kind of we know his is energetic as

1323
01:02:20,220 --> 01:02:17,650
parents is happening understand it and

1324
01:02:22,559 --> 01:02:20,230
there's various different nationally but

1325
01:02:26,309 --> 01:02:22,569
some of them we can measure so you can

1326
01:02:30,569 --> 01:02:26,319
measure like negative ions which are

1327
01:02:33,319 --> 01:02:30,579
generated by water so when we're close

1328
01:02:35,819 --> 01:02:33,329
to a waterfall a river the ocean

1329
01:02:37,950 --> 01:02:35,829
negative ions are generated which are

1330
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:37,960
actually the ones that we like as people

1331
01:02:42,390 --> 01:02:40,210
computers generate positive ions and

1332
01:02:44,759 --> 01:02:42,400
they're not good for health negative

1333
01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:44,769
ions attached to positive ions in the

1334
01:02:50,789 --> 01:02:48,160
air so if it gem is positively charged

1335
01:02:53,039 --> 01:02:50,799
so when you're by the ocean a lot of

1336
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:53,049
germs and pollution and knocks out of

1337
01:02:57,089 --> 01:02:54,730
the air there's a lot higher oxygen

1338
01:02:58,859 --> 01:02:57,099
content it's the brains getting a higher

1339
01:03:02,279 --> 01:02:58,869
level of oxygen and then their

1340
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:02,289
creativity can flourish more so if ya so

1341
01:03:07,049 --> 01:03:04,210
if you're an artist going near a

1342
01:03:09,809 --> 01:03:07,059
waterfall a river or the ocean it might

1343
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:09,819
make you feel particularly inspired so

1344
01:03:13,710 --> 01:03:11,710
we can measure this we can measure the

1345
01:03:15,779 --> 01:03:13,720
negative ions that's that's a quite a

1346
01:03:18,539 --> 01:03:15,789
common thing you can get negative ion

1347
01:03:23,279 --> 01:03:18,549
generators for the room to improve and

1348
01:03:25,470 --> 01:03:23,289
oxygen quantity quality also the

1349
01:03:27,450 --> 01:03:25,480
electrical current in the earth when I

1350
01:03:30,539 --> 01:03:27,460
was talking about sedona the Red Rocks

1351
01:03:30,910 --> 01:03:30,549
have a lot of iron so so we can measure

1352
01:03:33,099 --> 01:03:30,920
these

1353
01:03:35,740 --> 01:03:33,109
kind of things the electromagnetic the

1354
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:35,750
magnetism of some of these rocks and

1355
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:37,490
these are some of the subtle forces we

1356
01:03:41,829 --> 01:03:40,010
think of actually we're picking up on on

1357
01:03:44,140 --> 01:03:41,839
levels that we're not aware of but we

1358
01:03:46,750 --> 01:03:44,150
can measure them now with electronic

1359
01:03:50,069 --> 01:03:46,760
equipment so the TV show will measure

1360
01:03:52,690 --> 01:03:50,079
these subtle forces i will go with my

1361
01:03:54,940 --> 01:03:52,700
sensitivity because i think i can

1362
01:03:58,870 --> 01:03:54,950
actually feel these forces before we get

1363
01:04:00,789 --> 01:03:58,880
the electronics out a lot of the time so

1364
01:04:03,460 --> 01:04:00,799
we better compare my sensitivity with

1365
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:03,470
the electronics we can look at the myth

1366
01:04:08,370 --> 01:04:05,210
of the areas because a lot of these

1367
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:08,380
areas will have myths attached strange

1368
01:04:13,510 --> 01:04:10,730
occurrences that perhaps are known to

1369
01:04:15,220 --> 01:04:13,520
happen there we it really depends where

1370
01:04:18,130 --> 01:04:15,230
we want to go with the show we can go at

1371
01:04:20,710 --> 01:04:18,140
it from a kind of location perspective

1372
01:04:22,599 --> 01:04:20,720
why people should visit these places and

1373
01:04:25,390 --> 01:04:22,609
look at the locations we can look at the

1374
01:04:29,109 --> 01:04:25,400
human condition how we feel after going

1375
01:04:30,910 --> 01:04:29,119
to these places and I could probably go

1376
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:30,920
through a series of you could say

1377
01:04:35,470 --> 01:04:33,680
experiments or or different experiences

1378
01:04:37,870 --> 01:04:35,480
with people and see if we increase their

1379
01:04:39,940 --> 01:04:37,880
sensitivity over time so it's quite a

1380
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:39,950
lot that we can play with but really

1381
01:04:44,620 --> 01:04:42,290
just just trying to inspire the general

1382
01:04:46,930 --> 01:04:44,630
public to look around their area perhaps

1383
01:04:50,289 --> 01:04:46,940
you're not too far away I've mean I've

1384
01:04:53,460 --> 01:04:50,299
made up a provisional list of locations

1385
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:53,470
and I've got 15 different states listed

1386
01:04:58,210 --> 01:04:55,970
from looking around I mean there's

1387
01:05:00,670 --> 01:04:58,220
plenty plenty out there to explore once

1388
01:05:03,730 --> 01:05:00,680
you start looking the key really is to

1389
01:05:07,870 --> 01:05:03,740
ease to look around you and see what

1390
01:05:10,500 --> 01:05:07,880
you've got close by yeah absolutely I

1391
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:10,510
like what you said about looking into

1392
01:05:17,079 --> 01:05:14,930
you know the Native American tribes to

1393
01:05:20,410 --> 01:05:17,089
see what are the locations you know that

1394
01:05:25,539 --> 01:05:20,420
they were were making pilgrimages to or

1395
01:05:27,370 --> 01:05:25,549
building around or venerating and I love

1396
01:05:30,430 --> 01:05:27,380
that and you said you know you think

1397
01:05:33,069 --> 01:05:30,440
that it wasn't just a random thing that

1398
01:05:35,470 --> 01:05:33,079
they pick certain locations but don't

1399
01:05:38,890 --> 01:05:35,480
you think also it or what do you think

1400
01:05:42,549 --> 01:05:38,900
also about the fact that they do

1401
01:05:44,890 --> 01:05:42,559
venerate those sites in in in you and

1402
01:05:48,370 --> 01:05:44,900
your tours go to certain places and then

1403
01:05:53,260 --> 01:05:48,380
you venerate those sites do you feel

1404
01:05:56,140 --> 01:05:53,270
like the act of you know pilgrims if you

1405
01:05:59,250 --> 01:05:56,150
will coming to these particular sites

1406
01:06:02,530 --> 01:05:59,260
and you know doing their meditation

1407
01:06:07,740 --> 01:06:02,540
doing their toning or whatever their

1408
01:06:11,740 --> 01:06:07,750
practice is do you feel that those acts

1409
01:06:13,870 --> 01:06:11,750
keep those sites imbued or keep

1410
01:06:16,210 --> 01:06:13,880
continuing to imbue those sites with

1411
01:06:18,100 --> 01:06:16,220
more power because of the power that

1412
01:06:21,850 --> 01:06:18,110
that we see in them and the power that

1413
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:21,860
we're feeling there is there a

1414
01:06:28,210 --> 01:06:24,290
give-and-take I guess yeah it's what I'm

1415
01:06:31,540 --> 01:06:28,220
saying yeah it seems to be I mean it's

1416
01:06:33,610 --> 01:06:31,550
kind of like the atmosphere when you

1417
01:06:35,650 --> 01:06:33,620
when you go out to dinner I mean it

1418
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:35,660
depends on the people around me if

1419
01:06:39,610 --> 01:06:37,610
you've got a lot of happy people around

1420
01:06:41,620 --> 01:06:39,620
you and having a great time you kind of

1421
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:41,630
get in into that frame of mind because

1422
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:43,250
there's perhaps a fight happening in the

1423
01:06:47,290 --> 01:06:45,290
bar or something I mean it makes you

1424
01:06:49,450 --> 01:06:47,300
feel completely differently and that's

1425
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:49,460
just a I mean that's an immediate effect

1426
01:06:53,860 --> 01:06:51,650
that most of us have perhaps experience

1427
01:06:57,250 --> 01:06:53,870
so when you're talking about these huge

1428
01:06:58,900 --> 01:06:57,260
tracts of time and we probably say we

1429
01:07:01,330 --> 01:06:58,910
still talking about thousands of years

1430
01:07:04,030 --> 01:07:01,340
at some of these places in in the u.s. I

1431
01:07:06,100 --> 01:07:04,040
mean we know in Egypt these temples we

1432
01:07:08,950 --> 01:07:06,110
we're going to push them back to four

1433
01:07:11,470 --> 01:07:08,960
and a half thousand years buried for

1434
01:07:13,390 --> 01:07:11,480
sand for a while perhaps in Egypt but it

1435
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:13,400
does it does seem to be a correlation

1436
01:07:20,530 --> 01:07:18,050
between location and the time it's been

1437
01:07:24,730 --> 01:07:20,540
used and we there's plenty of

1438
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:24,740
experiments and about the intention the

1439
01:07:28,660 --> 01:07:26,690
effects of meditation I mean there's

1440
01:07:31,510 --> 01:07:28,670
been statistical studies on the amount

1441
01:07:34,150 --> 01:07:31,520
of people meditating at a certain time

1442
01:07:37,180 --> 01:07:34,160
they have said there's some papers out

1443
01:07:39,730 --> 01:07:37,190
there about crime dropping in certain

1444
01:07:42,430 --> 01:07:39,740
areas when these these kind of studies

1445
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:42,440
have been carried out so it's another

1446
01:07:47,620 --> 01:07:45,170
component it's a subtle component once

1447
01:07:51,580 --> 01:07:47,630
again and perhaps overlooked by most

1448
01:07:53,950 --> 01:07:51,590
people but it if you go there in in the

1449
01:07:56,650 --> 01:07:53,960
right frame of mind just willing to

1450
01:07:58,799 --> 01:07:56,660
explore them you may start to pick up on

1451
01:08:02,709 --> 01:07:58,809
these subtleties

1452
01:08:04,539 --> 01:08:02,719
mmm really interesting stuff I'm we're

1453
01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:04,549
going to be looking for that TV show to

1454
01:08:09,699 --> 01:08:06,319
come on we need more things like that on

1455
01:08:12,159 --> 01:08:09,709
the air and we've got old goodness we're

1456
01:08:14,919 --> 01:08:12,169
down to about I think about the last 13

1457
01:08:17,859 --> 01:08:14,929
minutes of the show and I'd like to add

1458
01:08:22,299 --> 01:08:17,869
in some questions if you don't mind from

1459
01:08:24,669 --> 01:08:22,309
the chat room Jim Bob wants to know if

1460
01:08:26,890 --> 01:08:24,679
you have heard about the resonating

1461
01:08:29,470 --> 01:08:26,900
quality found on the moon we've been

1462
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:29,480
talking about the United States Europe

1463
01:08:36,099 --> 01:08:32,690
Asia Africa all the world and now we're

1464
01:08:40,569 --> 01:08:36,109
talking about the moon any thoughts on

1465
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:40,579
that I'm I mean the only connection that

1466
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:42,770
I've got I've heard about the moon I'm

1467
01:08:48,789 --> 01:08:44,690
definitely not in my area of expertise

1468
01:08:50,979 --> 01:08:48,799
at this point he is and he referring to

1469
01:08:53,379 --> 01:08:50,989
the fact that it sounds Hollow is that

1470
01:08:56,499 --> 01:08:53,389
the resonance that's being referred to

1471
01:09:00,720 --> 01:08:56,509
perhaps but i'm not sure them shed a lot

1472
01:09:04,510 --> 01:09:00,730
more light on that subject i'm afraid

1473
01:09:07,569 --> 01:09:04,520
yeah your ear um you're more on the

1474
01:09:09,129 --> 01:09:07,579
earth right now I kind of gone to that

1475
01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:09,139
you haven't taken a tour to the moon yet

1476
01:09:18,010 --> 01:09:15,409
have you unfortunately not no no maybe

1477
01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:18,020
maybe one of these days if he's got any

1478
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:20,000
clarification on the direction of the

1479
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:22,130
resonance on my I've had something extra

1480
01:09:28,510 --> 01:09:25,040
to add perhaps okay we'll see if that

1481
01:09:32,079 --> 01:09:28,520
comes back toward us by the chat room

1482
01:09:35,169 --> 01:09:32,089
but dirt would like to know what are

1483
01:09:39,069 --> 01:09:35,179
your feelings as to the ley lines across

1484
01:09:42,569 --> 01:09:39,079
the planet does he feel they are energy

1485
01:09:44,620 --> 01:09:42,579
points to draw power and vision from I

1486
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:44,630
think we've kind of gone into that a

1487
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:47,210
little bit can you talk about that a

1488
01:09:52,660 --> 01:09:50,329
little bit more the ley lines yeah what

1489
01:09:56,680 --> 01:09:52,670
I mean I is an area that I've looked at

1490
01:09:58,959 --> 01:09:56,690
a lot it certainly seems like various

1491
01:10:02,049 --> 01:09:58,969
sites have been situated along these

1492
01:10:04,510 --> 01:10:02,059
straight lines I'm it's very dusting

1493
01:10:06,910 --> 01:10:04,520
like it's very clear to see in England

1494
01:10:09,339 --> 01:10:06,920
particularly I mean there seems to be a

1495
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:09,349
line from England and you can trace it

1496
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:12,290
all the way to Lake Titicaca in Peru

1497
01:10:20,110 --> 01:10:14,930
and I have been being down there and

1498
01:10:22,330 --> 01:10:20,120
it's again very energetic there seems to

1499
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:22,340
be more evidence coming out in England

1500
01:10:26,710 --> 01:10:23,930
recently that these roads that we

1501
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:26,720
thought were built by the Romans are now

1502
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:28,730
being pushed back another sort of Six to

1503
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:31,250
8,000 years and these are very straight

1504
01:10:37,810 --> 01:10:34,130
tracks and I think there was even some

1505
01:10:40,180 --> 01:10:37,820
that were shown in the u.s. that go over

1506
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:40,190
the tops of Messrs so it doesn't seem

1507
01:10:44,770 --> 01:10:42,890
like these lines that have been drawn on

1508
01:10:46,450 --> 01:10:44,780
the landscape or follow or actually for

1509
01:10:48,790 --> 01:10:46,460
people to walk across I mean if it just

1510
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:48,800
goes up goes straight to the foot of a

1511
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:51,410
Meza goes across you can see it on the

1512
01:10:56,140 --> 01:10:53,530
top of the mezzo and then it continues

1513
01:10:59,610 --> 01:10:56,150
afterwards so it does seem like there's

1514
01:11:04,120 --> 01:10:59,620
something else at play that's for sure

1515
01:11:08,580 --> 01:11:04,130
hmm so these sites that you're talking

1516
01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:08,590
about that are special and energetic

1517
01:11:13,660 --> 01:11:11,450
have you found that they generally

1518
01:11:16,990 --> 01:11:13,670
correspond with with a lane line or with

1519
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:17,000
a landline intersection or is that sort

1520
01:11:21,490 --> 01:11:19,010
of not what you're looking for you're

1521
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:21,500
just looking for the specific points and

1522
01:11:27,460 --> 01:11:24,530
no matter where they happen to fall that

1523
01:11:31,630 --> 01:11:27,470
is more of my ethos is just because when

1524
01:11:34,450 --> 01:11:31,640
I started trying to I was looking at the

1525
01:11:37,570 --> 01:11:34,460
ley lines and and I mean if you have a

1526
01:11:39,190 --> 01:11:37,580
map and you have some ancient sites I

1527
01:11:40,990 --> 01:11:39,200
mean there's a lot in England there's I

1528
01:11:43,150 --> 01:11:41,000
mean there's just hundreds of ancient

1529
01:11:44,410 --> 01:11:43,160
sites around Stonehenge most people

1530
01:11:46,900 --> 01:11:44,420
aren't aware many of them have

1531
01:11:49,750 --> 01:11:46,910
disappeared this small stones left

1532
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:49,760
there's still some buried under the

1533
01:11:53,830 --> 01:11:52,000
ground that I've heard farmers have been

1534
01:11:54,970 --> 01:11:53,840
discovering and then they're kind of

1535
01:11:58,000 --> 01:11:54,980
hidden again because of all the

1536
01:12:00,580 --> 01:11:58,010
complications so if you look at a map

1537
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:00,590
and you look at points on a map and then

1538
01:12:05,980 --> 01:12:02,690
you draw them I mean it's quite easy to

1539
01:12:10,210 --> 01:12:05,990
connect it as an independent researcher

1540
01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:10,220
in it and it's very subjective so I

1541
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:13,040
really what I'm trying to stick to with

1542
01:12:17,650 --> 01:12:14,690
my own research is something more

1543
01:12:21,220 --> 01:12:17,660
tangible so is there a place I can go to

1544
01:12:23,340 --> 01:12:21,230
and I have some kind of interesting

1545
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:23,350
experience or I feel more peaceful

1546
01:12:31,660 --> 01:12:25,970
rested and then I can

1547
01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:31,670
we share that with somebody and so I've

1548
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:36,710
yet to be I'd say entirely convinced of

1549
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:38,930
a lot of a lot of the speculative

1550
01:12:43,930 --> 01:12:41,450
research not say that it isn't correct

1551
01:12:46,900 --> 01:12:43,940
but it's just very difficult to prove it

1552
01:12:49,810 --> 01:12:46,910
empirically so I haven't gone down that

1553
01:12:54,220 --> 01:12:49,820
road with my own research that that's

1554
01:12:56,620 --> 01:12:54,230
the main point mmm but probably again it

1555
01:13:00,040 --> 01:12:56,630
needs more people to pick up the baton

1556
01:13:02,860 --> 01:13:00,050
and and say it's difficult to to see the

1557
01:13:05,380 --> 01:13:02,870
big picture now after so many thousands

1558
01:13:06,910 --> 01:13:05,390
of years with so much missing it would

1559
01:13:08,770 --> 01:13:06,920
have probably been much easier to see

1560
01:13:11,260 --> 01:13:08,780
these ley lines and all the sites that

1561
01:13:15,940 --> 01:13:11,270
are connected so yeah it's definitely a

1562
01:13:19,290 --> 01:13:15,950
lot more difficult now yeah yeah and by

1563
01:13:21,730 --> 01:13:19,300
the way that was the you know the hollow

1564
01:13:26,110 --> 01:13:21,740
resonance I guess of the moon it that

1565
01:13:28,420 --> 01:13:26,120
that Jim Bob was talking about another

1566
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:28,430
question from the chat room from der

1567
01:13:34,510 --> 01:13:31,370
says please ask Gary his views on crop

1568
01:13:36,850 --> 01:13:34,520
circles and the resonance of the designs

1569
01:13:38,770 --> 01:13:36,860
I know you've been to a lot of crop

1570
01:13:43,090 --> 01:13:38,780
circles because you're from the land of

1571
01:13:45,910 --> 01:13:43,100
crop circles yes you know i think i've

1572
01:13:49,300 --> 01:13:45,920
probably been about half a dozen maybe

1573
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:49,310
slightly more because the crop circles

1574
01:13:53,950 --> 01:13:52,130
for anyone listening do happen around a

1575
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:53,960
lot of these ancient sites is in

1576
01:14:00,790 --> 01:13:57,730
Wiltshire England and Avebury which is

1577
01:14:02,950 --> 01:14:00,800
called the world's largest stone circle

1578
01:14:07,180 --> 01:14:02,960
it's actually bigger than the Stonehenge

1579
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:07,190
and it's about 45 minute drive north of

1580
01:14:13,180 --> 01:14:09,650
Stonehenge sauce I had a good friend

1581
01:14:15,700 --> 01:14:13,190
there Maria Wheatley and author and to a

1582
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:15,710
guide to these places so I spent a lot

1583
01:14:19,300 --> 01:14:17,450
of time in that direction with her and

1584
01:14:21,820 --> 01:14:19,310
the crop circles appear when we're going

1585
01:14:23,710 --> 01:14:21,830
out to see the sights not literally as

1586
01:14:27,610 --> 01:14:23,720
we going out but when I'm staying in the

1587
01:14:32,410 --> 01:14:27,620
area quite often and one circle season

1588
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:32,420
and tends to start I mean it can start

1589
01:14:37,900 --> 01:14:35,930
as early as April or May and depending

1590
01:14:39,430 --> 01:14:37,910
on the weather but predominantly you see

1591
01:14:43,780 --> 01:14:39,440
most of the circle

1592
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:43,790
I and August the crops get cut in August

1593
01:14:49,090 --> 01:14:45,530
again depending on the weather when that

1594
01:14:51,370 --> 01:14:49,100
happens the circles are appearing around

1595
01:14:54,790 --> 01:14:51,380
these sites which of my I mean

1596
01:14:59,070 --> 01:14:54,800
wheelchair and this area is my favorite

1597
01:15:02,050 --> 01:14:59,080
location in England I visited so far

1598
01:15:04,530 --> 01:15:02,060
again it has this kind of quality to I

1599
01:15:06,700 --> 01:15:04,540
call it a magical landscape because

1600
01:15:09,430 --> 01:15:06,710
nothing nothing in nothing else really

1601
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:09,440
does it justice it has a quality to it

1602
01:15:14,530 --> 01:15:12,290
that makes it stand out in my mind I

1603
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:14,540
always feel happy returning it never

1604
01:15:20,830 --> 01:15:17,890
gets old likewise visiting Lee stuff

1605
01:15:23,290 --> 01:15:20,840
everybody that I've ever taken there has

1606
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:23,300
been has been moved it's this kind of

1607
01:15:33,010 --> 01:15:27,410
beautiful rolling hills now a berries

1608
01:15:36,729 --> 01:15:33,020
with the big horses right the there is a

1609
01:15:40,150 --> 01:15:36,739
big [\h__\h] yes yeah the white holes yeah

1610
01:15:43,750 --> 01:15:40,160
that's not too far away you have been

1611
01:15:45,700 --> 01:15:43,760
there a few times in terms of the crop

1612
01:15:48,700 --> 01:15:45,710
circles it's been difficult for me to

1613
01:15:52,270 --> 01:15:48,710
distinguish between you could say the

1614
01:15:55,450 --> 01:15:52,280
crop circles and the landscape because I

1615
01:15:58,060 --> 01:15:55,460
fill the whole area very powerfully I've

1616
01:16:00,490 --> 01:15:58,070
been I mean I've arranged speakers at

1617
01:16:02,709 --> 01:16:00,500
crop circle conferences and been there

1618
01:16:06,150 --> 01:16:02,719
and have many friends that follow the

1619
01:16:09,130 --> 01:16:06,160
crop circles it does seem like they

1620
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:09,140
these people is a number of researchers

1621
01:16:15,189 --> 01:16:11,810
out there that kind of decode quite

1622
01:16:17,410 --> 01:16:15,199
often the geometric patterns and it

1623
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:17,420
seems like they've some people they do

1624
01:16:23,470 --> 01:16:20,330
feel like they're helped by these the

1625
01:16:25,890 --> 01:16:23,480
way that they are decoded I mean from my

1626
01:16:28,530 --> 01:16:25,900
perspective there's many paths to

1627
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:28,540
perhaps the same goal in

1628
01:16:33,090 --> 01:16:31,130
self-development and it does seem like

1629
01:16:36,700 --> 01:16:33,100
crop circles have got something to offer

1630
01:16:38,170 --> 01:16:36,710
some people I'd certainly encourage

1631
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:38,180
anyone listening if you ever get an

1632
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:40,640
opportunity to to visit them and make

1633
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:42,770
your own minds I think that's all any of

1634
01:16:51,550 --> 01:16:48,170
us can really do yeah absolutely yeah

1635
01:16:53,130 --> 01:16:51,560
you know I have a dear friend a famous

1636
01:16:55,470 --> 01:16:53,140
author by the name of Henry link

1637
01:16:57,330 --> 01:16:55,480
who was one of the co-authors of Holy

1638
01:16:58,590 --> 01:16:57,340
Blood Holy Grail which kind of shook up

1639
01:17:01,530 --> 01:16:58,600
the world back in nineteen eighty-two

1640
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:01,540
another Englishman and has written many

1641
01:17:07,470 --> 01:17:03,730
books since then the holy place and in

1642
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:07,480
key to the sacred pattern and he says he

1643
01:17:13,020 --> 01:17:09,280
always says one door is all that's

1644
01:17:16,980 --> 01:17:13,030
needed so if you if you found your door

1645
01:17:19,470 --> 01:17:16,990
then that's your way in someone else

1646
01:17:22,410 --> 01:17:19,480
might have another way in and I think

1647
01:17:24,690 --> 01:17:22,420
it's the same with a lot of the work

1648
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:24,700
that you're doing and some of our other

1649
01:17:29,370 --> 01:17:26,890
friends are doing in terms of research

1650
01:17:33,450 --> 01:17:29,380
and looking into these correlations

1651
01:17:35,670 --> 01:17:33,460
between these places and perhaps some of

1652
01:17:38,250 --> 01:17:35,680
the knowledge that we once had that

1653
01:17:41,010 --> 01:17:38,260
we're trying to recover now about these

1654
01:17:43,170 --> 01:17:41,020
sites it's like you know one person is

1655
01:17:45,750 --> 01:17:43,180
taking that thread of the mystery

1656
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:45,760
another person is taking that thread and

1657
01:17:51,660 --> 01:17:48,610
their people all over that are working

1658
01:17:55,770 --> 01:17:51,670
just sort of beavering away in their own

1659
01:17:57,930 --> 01:17:55,780
private little studies at home and doing

1660
01:18:00,300 --> 01:17:57,940
their research and there are so many

1661
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:00,310
pieces of the puzzle that I think it's

1662
01:18:06,330 --> 01:18:03,090
wonderful that we have different ways of

1663
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:06,340
getting into it because otherwise I

1664
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:09,010
don't think one person could get

1665
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:14,170
anywhere near figuring out a lot because

1666
01:18:21,420 --> 01:18:17,290
it has to do with so many layers of

1667
01:18:22,830 --> 01:18:21,430
information so many subtleties so it's

1668
01:18:25,380 --> 01:18:22,840
wonderful that you're doing what you're

1669
01:18:26,670 --> 01:18:25,390
doing and certainly that there are

1670
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:26,680
others out there doing what they're

1671
01:18:33,930 --> 01:18:31,690
doing yep in this world well yeah I mean

1672
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:33,940
we say would be boring if we were all

1673
01:18:38,490 --> 01:18:36,610
were the same and the hope with why I'm

1674
01:18:40,410 --> 01:18:38,500
looking at how many I certainly feel

1675
01:18:42,930 --> 01:18:40,420
like I've helped myself it's an ongoing

1676
01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:42,940
process definitely not the finished

1677
01:18:47,820 --> 01:18:45,040
article I think I'd be bored if I

1678
01:18:50,700 --> 01:18:47,830
stopped learning how to never reach that

1679
01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:50,710
point really and looking around at the

1680
01:18:53,550 --> 01:18:52,450
amount of subjects that interest me I

1681
01:18:55,590 --> 01:18:53,560
don't think that's going to be a

1682
01:18:57,540 --> 01:18:55,600
challenge and that's probably why we

1683
01:18:59,540 --> 01:18:57,550
need reincarnation there's plenty to

1684
01:19:03,600 --> 01:18:59,550
come back and learn the next time around

1685
01:19:05,610 --> 01:19:03,610
that's right that's right well it has

1686
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:05,620
been really great having you on we're

1687
01:19:08,770 --> 01:19:06,890
very close to the end of the

1688
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:08,780
show and I want to talk a little bit

1689
01:19:13,510 --> 01:19:11,840
more before we close for those who may

1690
01:19:15,610 --> 01:19:13,520
have joined us a little bit later about

1691
01:19:17,440 --> 01:19:15,620
the conference where you're appearing

1692
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:17,450
this weekend starting tomorrow evening

1693
01:19:25,540 --> 01:19:20,330
and that's in rancho mirage near palm

1694
01:19:30,460 --> 01:19:25,550
springs and it's called the CPAC see PA

1695
01:19:32,620 --> 01:19:30,470
ke online dot org conference have a look

1696
01:19:34,420 --> 01:19:32,630
and going to be some great speakers

1697
01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:34,430
there Gary tell us a little bit about it

1698
01:19:39,310 --> 01:19:37,040
in the last couple minutes here yeah

1699
01:19:41,770 --> 01:19:39,320
well yeah kicking off with the kind of

1700
01:19:44,410 --> 01:19:41,780
meet and greet tomorrow night so still

1701
01:19:46,900 --> 01:19:44,420
time to come downstairs the talks start

1702
01:19:51,220 --> 01:19:46,910
on Saturday here we go I mean we've got

1703
01:19:53,470 --> 01:19:51,230
an amazing line up of speakers many of

1704
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:53,480
which I know very well lead Scranton

1705
01:19:59,290 --> 01:19:55,970
that talks about a lot of that the same

1706
01:20:01,120 --> 01:19:59,300
ancient symbolism the commonalities

1707
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:01,130
between various different ancient

1708
01:20:05,890 --> 01:20:03,410
cultures and he coming he's even taught

1709
01:20:07,450 --> 01:20:05,900
tying it into quantum physics there

1710
01:20:10,510 --> 01:20:07,460
seems to be a lot hidden in the ancient

1711
01:20:13,690 --> 01:20:10,520
symbolism of these cultures so he's he's

1712
01:20:16,750 --> 01:20:13,700
researchers fascinated me dr. Robert

1713
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:16,760
Schoch played talk about Egypt and he's

1714
01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:19,250
also been looking at Gobekli Tepe this

1715
01:20:24,370 --> 01:20:22,010
ancient possibly temple site that was

1716
01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:24,380
found in Turkey and made carbon dated

1717
01:20:31,090 --> 01:20:29,450
each 10,000 BC so that sign it should be

1718
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:31,100
read that they should be rewriting our

1719
01:20:35,020 --> 01:20:32,810
history books because it shows that

1720
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:35,030
human civilization was a lot more

1721
01:20:39,970 --> 01:20:37,250
advanced when we're told they were just

1722
01:20:41,980 --> 01:20:39,980
hunter and gatherer and there's then I

1723
01:20:43,830 --> 01:20:41,990
think is a new site in Indonesia that

1724
01:20:46,260 --> 01:20:43,840
has also been looking at maybe

1725
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:46,270
discussing as some interesting

1726
01:20:53,839 --> 01:20:50,770
excitingly circling them over there and

1727
01:20:57,510 --> 01:20:53,849
Joseph Selby the conference's

1728
01:21:00,299 --> 01:20:57,520
as I mentioned earlier orientated around

1729
01:21:02,580 --> 01:21:00,309
this grand sidewall the time the Yugo

1730
01:21:07,470 --> 01:21:02,590
cycles as the Indians called it Plato

1731
01:21:10,290 --> 01:21:07,480
called it a great year and it's probably

1732
01:21:12,780 --> 01:21:10,300
lasted something around 24 26 thousand

1733
01:21:15,330 --> 01:21:12,790
years watercraft ndon who's the founder

1734
01:21:17,370 --> 01:21:15,340
of CPAC conference made a great

1735
01:21:20,660 --> 01:21:17,380
documentary called the great year which

1736
01:21:24,629 --> 01:21:20,670
goes into this in a lot more detail and

1737
01:21:27,359 --> 01:21:24,639
and so we're looking at history but the

1738
01:21:29,879 --> 01:21:27,369
eriam I'm sorry we gotta go we ought to

1739
01:21:32,010 --> 01:21:29,889
be cut off here but that's the CPAC